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From: Logic Theorist (logictheorist@yahoo.com)Subject: Re: bifocal or progressive glasses? Newsgroups: rec.aviation.student |
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Date: 2000-11-05 14:48:20 PST |
Having been a pilot for over 20 years who wore glasses (Lasik ended the need) and having worked for an eyeglass lens manufacturer in the past here's what I have learned. Progressive lenses are not for pilots. In fact there have been several accidents where progressive lenses were cited as a contributing factor. The reason is that progressive lenses are not uniform from side to side. The progression begins wide at the top and narrows at the bottom. If I were to draw a diagram for you of the progressive area it would look somewhat T shaped. What this does to the pilots peripheral vision is to distort it considerably. All the accidents where progressives were cited as a contributing factor involved landings. Pilots who purchased progressives from the company I used to work for would often complain to the customer service dept. of the problems they had with them, specifically the distortion. The company's response was generally to just give them a full refund or credit towards bifocals to be put in their frames. The latest from the FAA is that they are considering a ban on the use of progressive lenses in the cockpit. The two largest manufacturers of progressive lenses, Essilor (AKA Varilux) and Sola, are not putting up a fight on this because they want to avoid the publicity and because they know there are problems. So what about bifocals? If you can still pass your class 1 try just using a pair of reading glasses. Keep them around your neck with strap so they are always there when you need to read something close up. Otherwise, if your vision requires you to wear glasses full time and presbyopia is a problem, bifocals may be the solution. In my case, at 46, and having had to wear glasses most of my life I had Lasik Surgery done and no longer need glasses. I too suffer from presbyopia but I had my right eye made a little more near sighted than the left. For now this has eliminated the need for reading glasses, but someday I will probably have to use them. Lasik is not without it's pitfalls (e.g. poor night vision) so if you consider this option, make sure you find a good surgeon who knows his stuff. One final note, all pilots who wear glasses (even sun glasses) should have them coated with an anti-reflective coating. The difference is substantial and worth the price. Also, photosensitive lenses such as Transitions do not work in the cockpit and they reduce the contrast against a blue sky. Better to stick with a good pair of sunglasses that you have purchased from an optometrist that has guaranteed there UV filtering ability and has had them AR coated for you. Even good off the shelf lenses provide only UV protection, none come with an AR coating. Hope this information helps, Logic Theorist "Tim Hoel" <twh@pclink.com> wrote in message news:3a05cd1a$0$62630$7ba1063b@news.pclink.com... > Although I was able to barely pass my first class medical without glasses, > it is getting harder for me to read maps. (At 48, presbyopia is setting > in.) I am now wondering whether it would be better to get bifocals or > progressive lens glasses for flying. Is there any common wisdom on this > subject, or for those who have gone before me, what is your opinion? > > Thanks, > Tim Hoel > > >
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From: Roger Halstead (rdhalste@tm.net)Subject: Re: bifocal or progressive glasses? Newsgroups: rec.aviation.student |
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Date: 2000-11-05 17:11:43 PST |
-- Roger Halstead (K8RI) www.RogerHalstead.com N833R World's Oldest Debonair? s# CD-2 "Logic Theorist" <logictheorist@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:ZhlN5.419$YQ5.216711@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net... > Having been a pilot for over 20 years who wore glasses (Lasik ended the > need) and having worked for an eyeglass lens manufacturer in the past here's > what I have learned. > > Progressive lenses are not for pilots. In fact there have been several > accidents where progressive lenses were cited as a contributing factor. <snip> > > One final note, all pilots who wear glasses (even sun glasses) should have > them coated with an anti-reflective coating. The difference is substantial > and worth the price. Also, photosensitive lenses such as Transitions do not > work in the cockpit Transitions don't, but photograys do. >and they reduce the contrast against a blue sky. Better > to stick with a good pair of sunglasses that you have purchased from an > optometrist that has guaranteed there UV filtering ability and has had them > AR coated for you. Even good off the shelf lenses provide only UV > protection, none come with an AR coating. All mine...Photogray, poloroid (which I prefer) and regular have the AR coating. Roger (K8RI) > > Hope this information helps, > Logic Theorist > > > "Tim Hoel" <twh@pclink.com> wrote in message > news:3a05cd1a$0$62630$7ba1063b@news.pclink.com... > > Although I was able to barely pass my first class medical without glasses, > > it is getting harder for me to read maps. (At 48, presbyopia is setting > > in.) I am now wondering whether it would be better to get bifocals or > > progressive lens glasses for flying. Is there any common wisdom on this > > subject, or for those who have gone before me, what is your opinion? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim Hoel > > > > > > > >
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From: Stan Prevost (sprevost2@nospam.home.com)Subject: Re: bifocal or progressive glasses? Newsgroups: rec.aviation.student |
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Date: 2000-11-05 15:12:04 PST |
I wear Varilux progressives and have noted no problems VFR or in IMC. I see no difference in flying an airplane or driving a car in terms of peripheral distortion or disorientation. I have worn the progressives for about 10 years now, bifocals before that. There are disadvantages to progressives, mainly for me that you have to turn your head and point your nose at whatever you are looking at, whereas with bifocals you can just use your peripheral vision or shift your eyes. But I have adapted and have no desire nor perceived need to change. Stan Tim Hoel <twh@pclink.com> wrote in message news:3a05cd1a$0$62630$7ba1063b@news.pclink.com... > Although I was able to barely pass my first class medical without glasses, > it is getting harder for me to read maps. (At 48, presbyopia is setting > in.) I am now wondering whether it would be better to get bifocals or > progressive lens glasses for flying. Is there any common wisdom on this > subject, or for those who have gone before me, what is your opinion? > > Thanks, > Tim Hoel > > >
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From: Roger Halstead (rdhalste@tm.net)Subject: Re: bifocal or progressive glasses? Newsgroups: rec.aviation.student |
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Date: 2000-11-05 17:10:34 PST |
Roger Halstead (K8RI) www.RogerHalstead.com N833R World's Oldest Debonair? s# CD-2 "Stan Prevost" <sprevost2@nospam.home.com> wrote in message news:7PlN5.83250$P4.24626937@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com... > I wear Varilux progressives and have noted no problems VFR or in IMC. I see > no difference in flying an airplane or driving a car in terms of peripheral > distortion or disorientation. > > I have worn the progressives for about 10 years now, bifocals before that. > There are disadvantages to progressives, mainly for me that you have to turn > your head and point your nose at whatever you are looking at, whereas with > bifocals you can just use your peripheral vision or shift your eyes. But I > have adapted and have no desire nor perceived need to change. To most of us, that periphial vision is essential to making safe, and good, landings. Roger (K8RI) > > Stan > > > Tim Hoel <twh@pclink.com> wrote in message > news:3a05cd1a$0$62630$7ba1063b@news.pclink.com... > > Although I was able to barely pass my first class medical without glasses, > > it is getting harder for me to read maps. (At 48, presbyopia is setting > > in.) I am now wondering whether it would be better to get bifocals or > > progressive lens glasses for flying. Is there any common wisdom on this > > subject, or for those who have gone before me, what is your opinion? > > > > Thanks, > > Tim Hoel > > > > > > > >
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From: Stan Prevost (sprevost2@nospam.home.com)Subject: Re: bifocal or progressive glasses? Newsgroups: rec.aviation.student |
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Date: 2000-11-05 20:21:31 PST |
Roger Halstead <rdhalste@tm.net> wrote in message news:%wnN5.14786$mC.928572@monger.newsread.com... > Roger Halstead (K8RI) www.RogerHalstead.com > "Stan Prevost" <sprevost2@nospam.home.com> wrote in message > > I wear Varilux progressives and have noted no problems VFR or in IMC. I see > > no difference in flying an airplane or driving a car in terms of peripheral > > distortion or disorientation. > > > > I have worn the progressives for about 10 years now, bifocals before that. > > There are disadvantages to progressives, mainly for me that you have to turn > > your head and point your nose at whatever you are looking at, whereas with > > bifocals you can just use your peripheral vision or shift your eyes. But I > > have adapted and have no desire nor perceived need to change. > > To most of us, that periphial vision is essential to making safe, and good, > landings. > > Roger (K8RI) > Landings have never been my strong point. Perhaps that's a contributing factor. How does one tell? Other than by getting a nonprogressive prescription, spending enough time with them to become natural with them, and see if landings improve?
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From: Dennis Monroe (dennismo@worldnet.att.net)Subject: Re: bifocal or progressive glasses? Newsgroups: rec.aviation.student |
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Date: 2000-11-06 10:40:08 PST |
Progressive. I fly behind them all the time. "Tim Hoel" <twh@pclink.com> wrote in message news:3a05cd1a$0$62630$7ba1063b@news.pclink.com... > Although I was able to barely pass my first class medical without glasses, > it is getting harder for me to read maps. (At 48, presbyopia is setting > in.) I am now wondering whether it would be better to get bifocals or > progressive lens glasses for flying. Is there any common wisdom on this > subject, or for those who have gone before me, what is your opinion? > > Thanks, > Tim Hoel > > >